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I know someone who has a 1985 Dodge truck, excellent condition and only 77,000. He wants to trade it in under the cash for clunkers program...noooooooo. Don't do that to a classic like that. 
no offense taken
Posted by: ben (74.178.39.---)
Posts: 206
Date: August 21, 2009 07:56PM

just offering a counter point...

my first car was a 1969 Dodge Charger with a 225 slant and 3 on the tree. my second car was a 1961 Willy's Jeep Dispatcher (basically a mail truck with left hand drive). i learned how to drive on my parent's D100 that i am now restoring.

i didn't buy the mustangs until i was in my 20's. i had a 85 GT first and then later bought a 85 LX 5.0 ex FHP patrol car. both were a ton of fun - there's nothing like doing a 180 on a 2 lane road in a LX notchback and never touching grass on either side.

i also had a fox bodied 85 LTD FHP car that i drove to Alaska one summer - 18,093 miles in 9 weeks and three days. they were all cheaply made but the 5.0 engine was nearly indestructible. all of them had over 150K on the odo and non of the engines needed any work. i pulled heads, main caps and rod caps and none had any detrimental wear - though the LTD need a valve job and rings.

i raced a T Type Buick several times with my GT and easily beat him. the GNX's were quite a different story... dman things were FAST. i was thisclose to buying a first year Shelby Dakota brand new from the same dealer and salesman that sold my parent's the 64 D100 new. i could not come up with the down payment to make the regular payment affordable so that's when i bought the GT 5.0. they were cool trucks but they were pretty slow compared to the mustangs.

anyway, my long drawn out point is keep an open mind on this stuff - there's plenty of cool cars in every era (gasp - including the 70s) that most people will find a niche to hang their hat on. guess that's what makes the world go 'round.

more to the point - the Cash For Clunkers thing is a sham on the greenies because most older cars have "environmental equity" where-as a new or newer car is in an "environmental debit" in terms of manufacturing and shipping the car to its final sales destination. it will take many miles and usage for a car to "pay off" it environmental debit and crushing them before their useful life and enviro-debit is "paid off" then you're simply creating more environmental impact by crushing it too soon.

i shudder to think what sort of environmental impact these hybrid batteries present when they start showing up in scrap yards much less attempting to measure the enviro-debit simply based on the amount of plastic in the wires alone...

Ben

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Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 1333 garyo 08/20/2009 10:17AM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 598 MoparNorm 08/20/2009 11:31AM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 516 beemrmax 08/20/2009 12:20PM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 611 JimmieD 08/20/2009 12:50PM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 528 soopernaut 08/20/2009 01:25PM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 515 MoparNorm 08/20/2009 02:29PM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 538 garyo 08/20/2009 02:38PM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 556 MoparNorm 08/20/2009 03:02PM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 527 DB69 08/20/2009 05:17PM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 555 bob 08/20/2009 07:42PM
Lets stick to real facts... 545 beemrmax 08/21/2009 10:43AM
there's plenty of cool 80s iron 567 ben 08/21/2009 01:03PM
Ok, I agree with you 1091 beemrmax 08/21/2009 03:24PM
no offense taken 476 ben 08/21/2009 07:56PM
Very interesting points 581 beemrmax 08/22/2009 01:08AM
Re: Very interesting points 522 Hobcobble 08/22/2009 08:17AM
Don't forget 565 beemrmax 08/22/2009 10:49AM
Re: Very interesting points 592 MoparNorm 08/22/2009 11:17AM
Railing????? 480 White Fargo 08/23/2009 04:55AM
Re: Railing????? 464 MoparNorm 08/23/2009 09:13AM
Re: Railing????? 519 beemrmax 08/23/2009 11:53AM
Re: Railing????? 465 beemrmax 08/23/2009 11:54AM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 563 JimmieD 08/21/2009 01:38AM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 472 bob 08/21/2009 10:06AM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 456 JimmieD 08/21/2009 10:51AM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 505 bob 08/21/2009 03:21PM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 466 garyo 08/21/2009 05:03PM
Re: Cash for clunkers 540 PwrWgnDrvr 08/21/2009 06:03PM
Re: Cash for clunkers 439 Russ 08/23/2009 05:50PM
Re: Cash for clunkers 541 MoparNorm 08/23/2009 06:54PM
Re: Cash for clunkers 525 DB69 08/24/2009 02:56AM
Re: Cash for clunkers 497 beemrmax 08/24/2009 10:15AM
Re: Cash for clunkers 485 soopernaut 08/24/2009 03:21PM
Re: Cash for clunkers 504 MoparNorm 08/24/2009 04:18PM
Re: Cash for clunkers 415 MoparNorm 08/24/2009 04:10PM
Are you kidding? 478 beemrmax 08/24/2009 05:07PM
Re: Cash for clunkers 459 bob 08/25/2009 09:43AM
What's "hidding" 467 beemrmax 08/25/2009 11:08AM
Re: easy hoss 527 ben 08/25/2009 01:13PM
Re: easy hoss 558 MoparNorm 08/25/2009 01:28PM
Okey Dokey 548 beemrmax 08/25/2009 03:21PM
Re: no prob 505 ben 08/25/2009 03:36PM
Re: Spelling & Grammar 507 Hobcobble 08/25/2009 03:42PM
;-) 604 beemrmax 08/25/2009 04:22PM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 478 frankyb 08/24/2009 03:21PM
Re: Clash for clunkers and the stupid. 510 DB69 08/24/2009 04:47PM
And... 472 beemrmax 08/24/2009 05:09PM


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