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Gents, Today I installed a new slave cylinder and I noticed that the spring comes close or is right against the rubber boot on the the slave cylinder. Is this correct? I have the spring attaching at the end of the clutch fork (near the pin joint attaching the slave cylinder rod) and the other end a 
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Re: slave cylinder spring and misc. ?
Posted by: JimmieD (66.81.29.---)
Posts: 1,090
Date: August 31, 2009 11:25PM

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PwrWgnDrvr
You're a real riot JD.
"Where's your documentation to support yet another one of your wild assertions that "...Chrysler looked far ahead of the curve in their designs"?

Yesterday u tell us that Chrysler Engineers are total idiots for designing an asolutely flawed charging system with an ammeter that will burn up your vehicle, then today they are next to God for putting a loop in the clutch line."

Okay, Terry:
No, the ammeter design is fine: WHEN THE TRUCK WAS BUILT and for many years after, generally. The problem, obviously, is age causing possible breakdowns, no mystery there. Nothing to defend. It's a poor design 30-40 years later. Personally I wish they had used a voltmeter, but I had a new Autometer 'Autogage' voltmeter short out and nearly burn up my truck [because it was a piece of junk] so any design may fail.

"So which is it? Are they Idiots, or Gods?"

Neither are they idiots or Gods. There can only be one God because the position is in & of itself mutually exclusive of a multiplicity except within the nature of himself, as explained by Jesus the Son of God.

"I will say it again, since u can't seem to grasp it. You are WRONG about the reason for the loop in the clutch line and you are WRONG thinking that such a loop will accomplish what u claim."

You have a sum total of zero engineering to back that up, and the needless complexity, cost and interference in engine compartment shows that your imagined reason for it is incorrect. A cheaper & more direct system to eliminate metal fatigue factors plus the required parts was already available from engineering & parts sources within Chrysler. A clutch line routed close to firewall immediately after exit from master, then run down to slave, there connected with a flexible rubber connection was in the system, available and fully functional.

If you are correct regarding the purpose of the surge coil, to prevent metal fatigue from engine/trans movement, then why does the Town Wagon & Town Panel have the steel clutch line routed across the firewall to slave cylinder on passenger side, using the same surge coil design? That line is firmly held in a steel clip screwed to firewall, AFTER the SURGE COIL!

"As usual, you cannot dazzle with brilliance so u try to baffle with yet another huge dose of BS.
YOU need to go study Occam's Razor again. Here's the link [www.google.com]
"

Fact is, you're trying to make me responsible for your ignorance of fluid dynamics & hydraulics. You obviously don't understand this aspect of hydraulic engineering, its purpose or its broad acceptance within the field, a field which you've never been employed in. So per usual you cover your lack of knowledge with insults, slander & accusations.

Another fact is that I'm standing firmly on the basics of fluid dynamics & mechanical engineering which any degreed engineer in that field will quickly verify. A textbook on hydraulics principals & design will also verify the veracity of my statements.

Do I really know what I'm talking about? I'll answer that with a few questions:

Have you ever successfully designed an industrial hydraulics/pneudraulics system from scratch for a multi-million dollar industrial project? I have, several times.

Have you been called in, all travel & expenses paid, 3/4 of the way across the country to troubleshoot a malfunctioning hydraulics/pneudraulics system? I have.

Have you been the project supervisor for system's maintenance of manufacturing plants across the USA for large multi-national & multi-billion dollar companies? I have.

Have you ever been called to re-design [successfully] a complex hydraulics/pneumatics installation when the multi-million dollar original design failed? I have.

Have you ever been employed by one of the largest petroleum companies in the world, to troubleshoot & re-design a failed multi-million dollar plant that had extreme problems with its Fluid Engineering processes, and to then be the on-site Supervisor of Process Engineering to make it right? I have.

Have you ever been Chief of Mechanical & Manufacturing Processes in a multi-million dollar manufacturing plant where all assembly processes depend on pneumatics & pneudraulics for their function? I have.

Have you ever received formal training or studied for 40+ years in the fields of Mechanical Engineering, Structural Engineering, Fluid Mechanics Engineering, Automotive Engineering and other areas of engineering? I have.

[My apologies to all others for trotting out credentials but it seems necessary here.]

Have you ever read even one textbook on Fluid Mechanics Engineering principals cover to cover? Have you ever even seen one??????

I refuse to be responsibile for your ignorance on the subject. You can stomp your feet as you beat your hands on your knees until your Jockey's are in a wad, hold your breath 'til you turn blue or scream obscenities at the moon but it won't change the facts. It's not that I don't know what I'm talking about, it's that you don't know what I'm talking about!

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