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I ....already posted 5 links where this feature is mentioned in Chrysler Coporation literature, for anyone to view and read at the links....
If you disagree then just state what your disagreement is...
What I'm trying to find out now on this hood question is what physical stops are designed into the hood hinge system to prevent it from opening beyond 45* or 90*. I want to know because at least 2 of my hoods have opened beyond 90*, and according to Chrysler it's by design.
Jimmie, the links u posted merely refer to the "full opening hood". They do NOT say the hood opens "beyond 90*", nor is there any reference anywhere to a "spring detent" creating an intermediate or initial stop point. That is because no such thing exists on the hinges.
Please review all of my posts. I have made no mention of you, your IQ, your manliness, or any other comment directed at u personally. My entire text has been directly related to the topic, nothing else. (PERIOD)
I, nor anyone else, have any obligation to leave non-factual claims unchallenged. Now that u have resorted to calling yourself names, be my guest, but DO NOT try to twist it onto me. I have done NO SUCH THING in this topic!
See Russ's pic of the stop that prevents the later (68-69) hinges from "opening fully"
Re your post below about "testing" hoods, I have opened several HUNDRED hoods and know for a fact that early hoods open to 90* ONLY, unless the hinge rivets/rivet holes are worn. Going beyond mere "opening and observation", I have also DISASSEMBLED hinges to study what the wear problem is. The FACTS are this:
1. There is only one stop point and there are NO detents or other features creating an intermediate stop point
2. Wear at the rivets causes misalignment of the hood at the back and slop which allows the hood to open beyond 90*
3. Sheetmetal fatigue where the hinges bolt to the hood allows flexing of the hood, which will "appear" as the hood opening beyond 90*
Your problem seems to be in reding comprehension regarding those links I posted. They mention the new full opening hood, as part of Chryslers features & advertising literature for the new models. They mention that because a fully opening hood, as in a hood that fully opens, is different from a partially opening hood, meaning a hood that only partially opens. Other truck hoods, and all car hoods, open to a particular point and stop, partially oepn. Fully opning hoods open fully, as far as the hood can open without damaging parts.
No, Terry, they don't mention the spring detents. They also don't mention the slight resistance in the shifter when changing gears, or the slight resistance in the door levers or push buttons when opening doors, Or the spring detent in door hinges when opening doors, or the resistance in glove box push button, or the air cleaner wing nut. Would you expect them to?
And no, I'm not accepting what you claim. Everyone else has posted their comments, viewpoints or opinions, no problem, no challenges from you. No problem or challenges except for me: I'm "wasting bandwidth".
Nobody elese was demanded to show FSM citations for what they commented on, were they? Where's your own FSM PROOF that hood hinges on ALL Sweptline are designed to stop hood at 90* or 45*???
Others posted their personal experience, on how far their hoods open. It is accepted. Well, except if it's me that says it: then it's 'UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS'. That insulting addition isn't needed, and it's added just to get a jab in. That kind of thing wasn't thrown at anybody else's comments, was it? That they're only wasting bandwidth, and that their 'unsubstantiated claims' as in b/s lies aren't accepted? You're just talking out your blow hole trying to deny it, when it's clear and obvious.
I'm saying I'm sick of it, about 3 1/2 to 4 years ago!
Also, on that '69 Sweptline hood, the hood would not come to rest until all the way open. It was a low miles, well maintained truck, where very few people ever opened the hood, as retired govt. truck.
And yes, I saw Russ's pics and already commented, asking how far that hood was open in the picture: as in all the way, as far as it would go, or not? I only found out that it was opened to somewhere, but not where.
Those are your 'Facts'. The other fact is that some, I have no idea which, Sweptline hoods open fully, like Chrysler designed them and as advertised by Chrysler. You may have opened 10,000 hoods, but if you were thinking then like you're thinking now, you would stop at the first major opening point, not thinking to even try to open farther. And if it did open farther, then it must be worn, because you don't think it should open farther. So that doesn't carry any weight.
There is either a strong physical stop to completely stop hood movement upward at the end of travel or there isn't. My hood had the same positive stops, but metal didn't contact metal until hood was fully open.
Regardless, I don't want to spend any more time on the subject because whatever I say won't be accepted at face value anyway.